Could someone explain the purpose of duct tape and the crooked arrow? I dont understand what duct tape does, and I dont see how the crooked arrow is better than the regular one.
Crooked arrow gains benefits from both of the row's it ocupies so if you want to trade even more space for maximum arrow damage (excluding trading all your space to max out electric arrow) you can. Duct tape allows effects to travel farther than normal for example say your doing a cleaver run you can have the max number (except for one spot of duct tape) of cleaver connections on a king cleaver and then that duct tape could carry other cleaver effects to and from the king cleaver. Or with duct tape you can have more shields connected to herculeus.
I'm really enjoying the fish sword build! The fishes double as health boost in dire times. The sword's damage is quite high from early to mid game! Having a stop watch or a ring of rage helps out a lot when finishing floor 9.
depending on how much rage you have forged on to your weapons, you may want to consider taking tusk over the +25% to connected weapons. the only issue is tusk would lock everything into place so you would need to be dead set on your positions.
Gold cleaver would be better adjacent to the gold in the bottom right instead of a normal cleaver to give 2 buffs, its not a lot but it is something. You could move one of the hats to 6th column and re arrange armour accordingly to hit 2 cleavers instead of 1.
If you could potentially free up 3 spaces for a red energy you would increase the damage by a bunch, the more energy you have the better belt of knives scales. If you are planning on killing in a first round salvo coral becomes less useful and weak becomes less useful.
Ultimately getting one healing gemstones instead of the whetstone is more energy efficient even if it heals for less overall.
Eventually replacing the shield + rings with 3 bucklers + 1 Hercule would be ideal. It would also trigger more cleavers.
Thats my actual build at lvl. 35 (5 lvls. later than before)
Sadly I only found one forge - which gaves me haste on the knight shield earlier. I'd love to found one ore two with rage:) atm my left jack cleaver got 3 golden whetstones. The regenerative whetstone saved me more than once in this run. Which is, why I'm atm not willing to sacrifice it, until i found one or more forges or better cleavers. I'd rater play a bit slower, than risk to lose this run :p That is also the reason why I sacrificed my belt of knives, cause it just count for the round insteat of the hole fight. Coral also leave several battles before for the third guardian ring. But now, since i've found a hercule it is kinda useless. But i keap it until some better is coming up.
Your Idea with shields and cleavers are good, but my luck seems to have weekend too :p
But anyway thanks again - got to go and punish some more badgers with my cleavers :p
This is round 1 on level 29 endless, 1900 damage, 226 block, 640 spikes, 30 rage and 20 haste.
Fishing for a few more bolts and a small cluster of king/queen cleavers to round out my weaponry.
Would love to find the ethereal energy wand to replace my curse setup. Gives me 4 extra energy every turn and the two crimson energies give me 2 continues energy.
So far all I do is click the middle Hercule Pavise and the rest happens automagically :P
Perhaps a full small bolt build allows me to remove the cleansing flame so that might save a spot. I really want to get more poison into the build but I think the only item here for me to get more poison is the blacksmith and hope he wants to do a weapon so i can add poison to my bolts. That would give me another 2 spaces to work with.
The issue with this build which is the issue with a lot of builds is that it only scales during combat, which means as the health of enemies scales your initial salvo does less of the % or max health and eventually it will take you more rounds. You might not take damage, you might be able to remove poison, but eventually the snakes will start doing 100+ poison on second round and will have 30k+ health you might be able to cleanse 30 poison but you will eventually die to that. The only scaling I have found keeps up with the health scaling so far is Assassin's Dagger as a solo weapon, taking every kill and every buff.
Yeah i just noticed that on floor 47, that is where i died in 2 turns to 90 poison.
I cleared out my inventory too much for early energy after that screenshot, and then i decided to drop one of my hercule pavise and i was then sorely lacking both the damage and scalability. i could survive the poison if i had more room to bring a few anti poison pots.
This build turns into a macro build more then micro. Depends a bit on your luck streak on NPC's later on if you get a bit of balance in the buffs you can get.
If I find a energy wand with this build it's pretty much GG though for a long long time. I can get 7 initial extra energy and then another 3 permanent energy round 2.
It seems I am getting much better at compressing bonusses into less slots and getting more long term items in time to scale so I am having fun. It's a shame i cannot get the steam client version right now because if that has proper saves i would love to go back to a previous load to redo the run from when i made 2 mistakes.
Thanks so much for making the game dude I found it and haven't played any other game sense I am even up some nights playing this (I have mild insomnia so I am already up anyway might as well play my new favorite game.)!
Shields will only trigger the attack once per shield, however they trigger the debuff as many times as they are used. seems to be bug, The issue is stacking Hercule Pavise's. See my build below I replaced everything with buckler for safe non-debuff infinite run.
yeah that probably works, but the problem is that the fact that this is a bug and you normally wouldn't need to go through such roundabout measures to avoid it
I have achieved infinite shield stab-ability Once you stack your Assassin's Knife enough, rub it with some gold whetstones, all fights die with the 72 knife procs a round. I haven't been hit in so long that coral no longer serves a purpose, mirror shield also isn't needed, will replace with another buckler for buckler supremacy. Removed all spare Hercule Pavise's and those anti poison rags to reduce turn lag. I'm considering removing the gemstone heart as well so I don't get heal lag as well.
Managed to get much farther this time, it is surprising that I lasted this long. Still the usual problem with not getting the final relic (Windmill) despite all the boss fights. Got 2 Duct tapes, more cleavers (always prepare consumables for chef event), utilize the legendary shield (still could not find Mirror shield), found no Chef hat, and Coral.
Tried out the Assassin blade this time and it is useful against King by only using it at the start to get enough haste then switch to full damage later. Made a mistake in the boss fight and died, tried the quit and continue game trick but the cleavers does not act correctly despite shuffling around the items before fight. Local app is probably the only solution to that.
I really wish this game have some sort of guide on how to use some items, weapons, armor and etc. How am I supposed to know on what the hell does Tasty Fly do? Why not make a guide after you got that item, achievements or something that would make the game more understandable and more awarding.
lmao maybe try using context clues and also like tasty fly is the ONLY example of this in the game, if you hover over everything else it literally tells you what it does.
Got a cursed blade build up and running. really wish I'd had an opportunity to move it so it wasn't straight in the middle but oh well. Got a cursed shiv on floor 4 or 5 which let me generate all the curses I wanted. Got a ninja armor before I got to the king fight, so I absolutely smoked him. Fun, but not much actual scaling. Just super high raw damage
Very entertaining and unique concept that's actually executed quite well. I'm having troubles on just the second floor, but I feel like it's always my fault on something that I can improve on instead of the game being unfair. Very nice game, can't wait for the Steam release!
even before the attempted update to allow yo to go back to the shop and healer, the person who commented it had a good idea but its to bad it didn't get put in to the game.
but keep up the great work, can't wait to see what comes out next!
I think this is the limit of the cursed sword, more energy would have maybe gotten me to floor 14 or 15, got the sword and 8 curses on 2nd floor. Hopefully there will be more game before endless mode in the future.
im so sad, i absolutely love this game and i was going to do the 30 dollar pledge and when i went to do it i found that the kickstarter had been stopped :( guess ill wait 10 months to try any of the updated stuff, really sucks bc a bigger backpack changes the game so drastically and it feels like the kickstarter didnt last long enough
basically whatever effect your weapon or item applies it will apply it to adjacent weapons. For instance if you have a relic that applies poison to all weapons in a row (poison whetstone) you can put duct tape in that row and it will also apply it to the weapons you placed above and below it 1 space. Particularly dangerous with cleavers and shield relic. Doing 130k plus on the first turn of round 1
Just beat Grandmaster with a slime sword build. The key to making the Bomb relic work is buffing the swords with Whetstone and / or Soldier's Buckler so you can kill enemies in two or three hits tops. You need to survive a few turns so reforging the shield with Haste and wearing Archangel armor would be useful, maybe having an HP wand or mushroom soup w/ consumables too
arrow and wand gets +1 damage from connected manastones, armor gives you 1 dodge/turn and helmet adds 1 dodge per combat. saving the cleaver so that i can exchange it with archery kit later
Quite an unfortunate run yet still the farthest I've gone since the last update. Despite carrying at least 1 ring for most of the run and fighting every single battle available, I never really got much out of it. One single forge event for rage, no cleaver event, failed to get queen cleaver from the wheel, no mirror shield or duct tape or hercule pavise, one single hat, and no windmill. Oh well, better luck next time.
a assassin's dagger run with the stacks but this is as far as i can go i guess. The poisons and burns from the snakes, bats, and fire geckos. To the people who knows how to deal with poisons and burns from floor 13+, please help me this is getting out of hands ;-;
Will there be any way for those who missed out on the kick starter to purchase an early access steam key? I really want to support the development of this and didn't get the chance to via kick starter.
Looking for tips on how to optimize this build as well as what to look for going forward
I've finally gotten an endless cleaver run of the ground and decided that I'd do something a bit different from the norm. Rather than going all out on the cleaver duct tap, I'm running emerald bracelet alongside it. The theory here is that although I miss a lot of damage, the idea behind this is that with 16 energy I can scale far enough with belt of knives and rage build up to overtake the three or four turns most other cleaver builds.
Few Things:
-I don't really know how important cleaver placement is with so much duct tape, if it is an someone explain
-I know having two vampiric crystals is unnecessary but king still scares me stupid so I'll get rid of it later
-I'm still waiting on the last emerald bracelet, I don't plan to expand energy from there
Can anyone tell me whether hourglass affects beserker club self damage? Because if it does, I may have thought up a way to beat everything indefinitely.
I think I found a bug. Once you die or make a mistake or whatever, you can quit the game and then press the continue game button. This will respawn you at the beginning of that floor or where ever you saved your game on that floor.
It lets you check what random events are ( You save right before and then go into it. Then you see what it is and do this bug. That event will never change so when you go back to it after doing this, it will be the same. ) It also lets you test out builds without the risk of death.
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Could someone explain the purpose of duct tape and the crooked arrow? I dont understand what duct tape does, and I dont see how the crooked arrow is better than the regular one.
Crooked arrow gains benefits from both of the row's it ocupies so if you want to trade even more space for maximum arrow damage (excluding trading all your space to max out electric arrow) you can. Duct tape allows effects to travel farther than normal for example say your doing a cleaver run you can have the max number (except for one spot of duct tape) of cleaver connections on a king cleaver and then that duct tape could carry other cleaver effects to and from the king cleaver. Or with duct tape you can have more shields connected to herculeus.
Oh shit! I've been sleeping on those items! That's huge. Thanks mate.
Your welcome and yeah as a cleaver main I instantly saw the use of duct tape but I slept really hard on crooked arrow until very recently.
Yeah I used to think crooked arrow was just a novelty item and didn't deserve rare but the fact that it can occupy two rows makes it good enough
Still up & running, who said curses where a bad thing? I hope to upload where this run dies
I'm really enjoying the fish sword build! The fishes double as health boost in dire times. The sword's damage is quite high from early to mid game! Having a stop watch or a ring of rage helps out a lot when finishing floor 9.
Any Suggestions to optimize this build? (change cleaver positions or some like this)
Would appreciate it very much :)
Thanks in advance
depending on how much rage you have forged on to your weapons, you may want to consider taking tusk over the +25% to connected weapons. the only issue is tusk would lock everything into place so you would need to be dead set on your positions.
Gold cleaver would be better adjacent to the gold in the bottom right instead of a normal cleaver to give 2 buffs, its not a lot but it is something. You could move one of the hats to 6th column and re arrange armour accordingly to hit 2 cleavers instead of 1.
If you could potentially free up 3 spaces for a red energy you would increase the damage by a bunch, the more energy you have the better belt of knives scales. If you are planning on killing in a first round salvo coral becomes less useful and weak becomes less useful.
Ultimately getting one healing gemstones instead of the whetstone is more energy efficient even if it heals for less overall.
Eventually replacing the shield + rings with 3 bucklers + 1 Hercule would be ideal. It would also trigger more cleavers.
Thanks sir_puzzle :)
Thats my actual build at lvl. 35 (5 lvls. later than before)
Sadly I only found one forge - which gaves me haste on the knight shield earlier. I'd love to found one ore two with rage:) atm my left jack cleaver got 3 golden whetstones. The regenerative whetstone saved me more than once in this run. Which is, why I'm atm not willing to sacrifice it, until i found one or more forges or better cleavers. I'd rater play a bit slower, than risk to lose this run :p That is also the reason why I sacrificed my belt of knives, cause it just count for the round insteat of the hole fight. Coral also leave several battles before for the third guardian ring. But now, since i've found a hercule it is kinda useless. But i keap it until some better is coming up.
Your Idea with shields and cleavers are good, but my luck seems to have weekend too :p
But anyway thanks again - got to go and punish some more badgers with my cleavers :p
This is round 1 on level 29 endless, 1900 damage, 226 block, 640 spikes, 30 rage and 20 haste.
Fishing for a few more bolts and a small cluster of king/queen cleavers to round out my weaponry.
Would love to find the ethereal energy wand to replace my curse setup. Gives me 4 extra energy every turn and the two crimson energies give me 2 continues energy.
So far all I do is click the middle Hercule Pavise and the rest happens automagically :P
Perhaps a full small bolt build allows me to remove the cleansing flame so that might save a spot. I really want to get more poison into the build but I think the only item here for me to get more poison is the blacksmith and hope he wants to do a weapon so i can add poison to my bolts. That would give me another 2 spaces to work with.
The issue with this build which is the issue with a lot of builds is that it only scales during combat, which means as the health of enemies scales your initial salvo does less of the % or max health and eventually it will take you more rounds. You might not take damage, you might be able to remove poison, but eventually the snakes will start doing 100+ poison on second round and will have 30k+ health you might be able to cleanse 30 poison but you will eventually die to that. The only scaling I have found keeps up with the health scaling so far is Assassin's Dagger as a solo weapon, taking every kill and every buff.
Good Luck and happy delving!
Yeah i just noticed that on floor 47, that is where i died in 2 turns to 90 poison.
I cleared out my inventory too much for early energy after that screenshot, and then i decided to drop one of my hercule pavise and i was then sorely lacking both the damage and scalability. i could survive the poison if i had more room to bring a few anti poison pots.
This build turns into a macro build more then micro. Depends a bit on your luck streak on NPC's later on if you get a bit of balance in the buffs you can get.
If I find a energy wand with this build it's pretty much GG though for a long long time. I can get 7 initial extra energy and then another 3 permanent energy round 2.
It seems I am getting much better at compressing bonusses into less slots and getting more long term items in time to scale so I am having fun. It's a shame i cannot get the steam client version right now because if that has proper saves i would love to go back to a previous load to redo the run from when i made 2 mistakes.
Ok this game is WAY too addicting. 10/10
thank you! 😊
Thanks so much for making the game dude I found it and haven't played any other game sense I am even up some nights playing this (I have mild insomnia so I am already up anyway might as well play my new favorite game.)!
balanced game
Shields will only trigger the attack once per shield, however they trigger the debuff as many times as they are used. seems to be bug, The issue is stacking Hercule Pavise's. See my build below I replaced everything with buckler for safe non-debuff infinite run.
yeah that probably works, but the problem is that the fact that this is a bug and you normally wouldn't need to go through such roundabout measures to avoid it
I have achieved infinite shield stab-ability
Once you stack your Assassin's Knife enough, rub it with some gold whetstones, all fights die with the 72 knife procs a round. I haven't been hit in so long that coral no longer serves a purpose, mirror shield also isn't needed, will replace with another buckler for buckler supremacy. Removed all spare Hercule Pavise's and those anti poison rags to reduce turn lag. I'm considering removing the gemstone heart as well so I don't get heal lag as well.
Managed to get much farther this time, it is surprising that I lasted this long. Still the usual problem with not getting the final relic (Windmill) despite all the boss fights. Got 2 Duct tapes, more cleavers (always prepare consumables for chef event), utilize the legendary shield (still could not find Mirror shield), found no Chef hat, and Coral.
Tried out the Assassin blade this time and it is useful against King by only using it at the start to get enough haste then switch to full damage later. Made a mistake in the boss fight and died, tried the quit and continue game trick but the cleavers does not act correctly despite shuffling around the items before fight. Local app is probably the only solution to that.
Finally got a pickaxe build. Not much to say
I really wish this game have some sort of guide on how to use some items, weapons, armor and etc. How am I supposed to know on what the hell does Tasty Fly do?
Why not make a guide after you got that item, achievements or something that would make the game more understandable and more awarding.
Also just so you know tasty fly reduces the price at the merchant if you give it to him.
lmao maybe try using context clues and also like tasty fly is the ONLY example of this in the game, if you hover over everything else it literally tells you what it does.
Hmmm... this is new.
I ran into something similar when loading a save, run was totally bricked and I had to restart.
Got a cursed blade build up and running. really wish I'd had an opportunity to move it so it wasn't straight in the middle but oh well. Got a cursed shiv on floor 4 or 5 which let me generate all the curses I wanted. Got a ninja armor before I got to the king fight, so I absolutely smoked him. Fun, but not much actual scaling. Just super high raw damage
Very entertaining and unique concept that's actually executed quite well. I'm having troubles on just the second floor, but I feel like it's always my fault on something that I can improve on instead of the game being unfair. Very nice game, can't wait for the Steam release!
Ever see the item that is like the relic ore but yellow? I saw it on the starting screen.
Is their no chance to get access to the game anymore, I wish to spend$
the demo is still available to play and it is VERY fleshed out for a demo. Just give it a year it will come in time
Ya but I want to give them my money now aaaa
btw if you ever press start and not continue you can just leave the game before you press the next room
"Fear me Brigand!"
Choose "I'm a foe!"
He dosent always do that, hes got a lot of hp and he drops the weapon on death if he desides to actually fight you
Really?
yup
I assumed it was dependent on what he says after a few tests
I've played this game for a bit.
even before the attempted update to allow yo to go back to the shop and healer, the person who commented it had a good idea but its to bad it didn't get put in to the game.
but keep up the great work, can't wait to see what comes out next!
This is a really fun game! I will definitely check this out on steam when it releases!
im so sad, i absolutely love this game and i was going to do the 30 dollar pledge and when i went to do it i found that the kickstarter had been stopped :( guess ill wait 10 months to try any of the updated stuff, really sucks bc a bigger backpack changes the game so drastically and it feels like the kickstarter didnt last long enough
Just wanted to see what the damage was on turn 1.
So how exactly does duct tape work cause its not particularly obvious to me you cant really buff it
basically whatever effect your weapon or item applies it will apply it to adjacent weapons. For instance if you have a relic that applies poison to all weapons in a row (poison whetstone) you can put duct tape in that row and it will also apply it to the weapons you placed above and below it 1 space. Particularly dangerous with cleavers and shield relic. Doing 130k plus on the first turn of round 1
much appreciated thx
This was a fun Xbox poison build to negate the 50% damage reduction. Maybe should've dropped the mana and short arrow but not too sure :)
Just beat Grandmaster with a slime sword build. The key to making the Bomb relic work is buffing the swords with Whetstone and / or Soldier's Buckler so you can kill enemies in two or three hits tops. You need to survive a few turns so reforging the shield with Haste and wearing Archangel armor would be useful, maybe having an HP wand or mushroom soup w/ consumables too
had a lot of fun playing this mage archer build.
arrow and wand gets +1 damage from connected manastones, armor gives you 1 dodge/turn and helmet adds 1 dodge per combat. saving the cleaver so that i can exchange it with archery kit later
died from poison though
Quite an unfortunate run yet still the farthest I've gone since the last update. Despite carrying at least 1 ring for most of the run and fighting every single battle available, I never really got much out of it. One single forge event for rage, no cleaver event, failed to get queen cleaver from the wheel, no mirror shield or duct tape or hercule pavise, one single hat, and no windmill. Oh well, better luck next time.
ultimate scaling build
You need shield spirit to use assassin's dagger for 1 energy. Also golden wet stones to exponentially scale your dagger.
You also can use items and relics to remove poison. When using shield try to get items that build haste.
i finally finish the game for all this time i dont know what to use and what to attack so my run was very messy.
Will there be any way for those who missed out on the kick starter to purchase an early access steam key? I really want to support the development of this and didn't get the chance to via kick starter.
Same I was a day late in getting to back this.
Looking for tips on how to optimize this build as well as what to look for going forward
I've finally gotten an endless cleaver run of the ground and decided that I'd do something a bit different from the norm. Rather than going all out on the cleaver duct tap, I'm running emerald bracelet alongside it. The theory here is that although I miss a lot of damage, the idea behind this is that with 16 energy I can scale far enough with belt of knives and rage build up to overtake the three or four turns most other cleaver builds.
Few Things:
-I don't really know how important cleaver placement is with so much duct tape, if it is an someone explain
-I know having two vampiric crystals is unnecessary but king still scares me stupid so I'll get rid of it later
-I'm still waiting on the last emerald bracelet, I don't plan to expand energy from there
Can anyone tell me whether hourglass affects beserker club self damage? Because if it does, I may have thought up a way to beat everything indefinitely.
I need some more confirmation than this but I saw a comment that says yes https://itch.io/post/5848856
Welp someone already thought of it
https://itch.io/post/5859846/
Can I seriously not buy this game until next year?
I think I found a bug. Once you die or make a mistake or whatever, you can quit the game and then press the continue game button. This will respawn you at the beginning of that floor or where ever you saved your game on that floor.
i already know this but its like barly helps it can save you tho if you did a rong move
It lets you check what random events are ( You save right before and then go into it. Then you see what it is and do this bug. That event will never change so when you go back to it after doing this, it will be the same. ) It also lets you test out builds without the risk of death.
I don't think it's a bug, more like a check point feature.
A lot of hats, can you count them all? ;)
Ps: It's 4 hats, a bit underwhelming tbh.
I know my setup is bad, don't judge me. :)