Saw other comments and tried Assassin's Dagger + Hercule Pavise. It's insanely overpower.
Floor 162 and still going strong, killing most of the enemy groups in the first turn and none have survived the second turn. But combats have become too laggy for me to want to continue anymore. Oh well.
First turn damage 186k+ total
Could've scaled even more if Gold replaced with another Crimson Energy.
I think what happened here was that connected Hercule Pavise shields would trigger each other multiple times but the dagger only once, hence giving only +1 stopwatch while piling on debuffs
Two golden whetstones, and yet I was still stuck with that uncommon wand... Berserk ring carried for a while, but it ended up disabled in the end. Without the dodge from the armor though I wouldn't have made it so far, so it is what it is. Rip. I also always forget that damn mana totem isn't conductive.
Pretty impressive how it still manages to progress even past magma core+ without a single forge on the way. The only source of haste is an armour, no rage generation, no damage scaling except the initial boost with the ring and at least damage doesn't decay because I've finally found rare shield around floor 14 (using legendary before :D). Queen cleaver appeared approx. the same floor as the shield:)
P.S. Wouldn't be possible without whetstones, saved my run pretty much.
I do have some bug reports, though. First, the Assassin Dagger's kill counter starts behaving oddly once you get it high enough. Past 1000 kills, it starts counting by 10s (the damage bonus still only goes up by 1, though). For example, at 1121 kills it will say you have 2210 kills and a damage bonus of 1121. Second, there seems to be a bug with Hercule Pavise activating multiple shields at a time. Some of the activations will be double-counted for negative effects (enemies gaining rage on shield use, damage penalty from Shield Spirit) but positive effects (attacks triggered by Shield Spirit, gaining block, etc.) only happen once per shield. In the setup shown above I get 10 shield activations, but 17 triggers of negative effects. Third, although on-damage effects were fixed to only trigger upon taking damage, the fix only applies to the player - enemies with on-damage effects still trigger the effects if they take no damage from an attack. In particular, the Elder Mage's +1 dodge when taking damage still triggers when avoiding damage by dodging, meaning that only the first attack of each turn can do damage (and what's worse, if you have a weapon with a small amount of vampirism attached to it, the vampirism will trigger the dodge effect, preventing the weapon from ever dealing its normal damage).
1.- That's funny but ya, that's something that should be fixed. 2.- I don't think that's a bug, enemies who get rage per shield activation will, well, do exactly that (take is as a downside of spamming shields), now, it makes sense that every shield only get to use positive effects once per turn, otherwise you could get a ridiculous amount of haste, given you have 1 haste per shield, or in the case of cleavers (rage), they would be WAY stronger than they already are. 3.- It makes sense that you can only kill the Elder Mage in one turn if it's a literal one shot because it is a very fragile boss, and it's supposed to be a boss, not an enemy with slightly more HP. But i agree on the fact that vampirism shouldn't trigger the dodge effect with that boss, i have never been in that situation but hitting the boss for the 1, 2, 3 vampirism damage for it to dodge your BIG damage sounds horrible.
2 and 3 are both definitely problems, and for the same reason; it's important that when the same language is used for different effects they work the same way. The two effects on the Shield Spirit both use the same language to describe when they activate, therefore they need to both activate under the same conditions. If the player had an item with the same text as the Elder Mage's ability, it would cause them to dodge every second damage source in a turn, not all but the first; therefore the Elder Mage's ability should work that way too. Consistent use of language in effect descriptions is vital to a game like this.
The issue with vampirism counting as a separate damage source isn't technically a bug, it just causes problematic interactions due to ordering (and changing the order in which the damage sources trigger doesn't solve it, it just changes which specific situations have problematic interactions). If it were me, I would change vampirism X from "deals X damage and heals for unblocked damage dealt" to "this item heals for unblocked damage dealt up to a maximum of X" and give most or all of the items with vampirism X an additional +X damage bonus (that would keep the total damage and potential healing the same, but unifies the damage into a single damage source - technically a small buff, but much more consistent in its behavior).
This archer's wand build is incredibly fun and powerful! Next to zero lag considering it's primarily mana, and I only failed because I ran out of mana. 350+ damage per energy and it worked as early as floor 4, doing like 120+ damage per energy cause of that sexy bomb relic
estava usando a builde de espinhos junto com a lança vanpirismo como a imagen mostra , estava usando a comida que da 5+hp que buffa a agua que adiciona 4+ energia assim fazendo o combo 4+Stamina = 20+HP tendo no meu slote uns 3 ou 4 para poder enfrentar os bosses e tb tendo a poção de remover debuf assim o efeito do vanpirismo sendo cancelado ja que nao iria matar o inimigo, bom Jogo espero poder comprar assim que lançar
The 1000dmg Wand that killed the 27th floor's boss with 35000 hp! It could go more if i had more vampirism, that energy staff, curse ring or curse crown... Also, the cleasing wand doesnt not work properly!
It would be cool if there was a way to counteract Poison without taking damage at the start of the next turn. Maybe a potion or item that immediately dispels Poison once it's applied, sort of like Dodge but for poison.
You still take damage by poison right before your turn starts and you can drink the self-status potion. It's unavoidable and a big crutch on endless runs where a single poison tick can take away all your health without you having the chance to remove it.
Misclicked on the king and toasted myself on spikes. good run though it was a pretty harsh stalemate. I couldn't do enough damage to pass up his regen.
I am guessing he tanks curses and heals with food or throws away some food, Assassin's Dagger has infinite scaling and he can get defense while damaging his opponents, probably has rage, haste or both. I don't think enemies survive long enough to poison him.
another thing, should teddy bear sword and pacifist ring really synergize? in think teddy should be a weapon, but because he isnt whe can have a +1 energy with + 2 extra atk, having both itens
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I got the DEFECT/ROBOT TOY reference
Saw other comments and tried Assassin's Dagger + Hercule Pavise. It's insanely overpower.
Floor 162 and still going strong, killing most of the enemy groups in the first turn and none have survived the second turn. But combats have become too laggy for me to want to continue anymore. Oh well.
First turn damage 186k+ total
Could've scaled even more if Gold replaced with another Crimson Energy.
Also the kill count on the dagger has glitched.
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Try this again with the addition of the Fox Rapier in your inventory.
Hmm, but fox Rapier doesn't scale, and Block is capped at 999 anyway so there's no reason to add even more Block to it.
Unless threre's some other interactions I don't know about?
I think what happened here was that connected Hercule Pavise shields would trigger each other multiple times but the dagger only once, hence giving only +1 stopwatch while piling on debuffs
Don't know why it's like that tho
u are god
I LOVE THE SLAY THE SPIRE EASTER EGG
What?! there is a easter egg for slay the spire?!
Yes there's actually an item in the game, based off of it. A mana item.
Belt of knives with a bow feels like cheating...
...and I love it
I killed the Grandmaster in one turn with this (Granted, I did also cheat even more by giving myself +6 energy with water bottle and bad food)
press m
spikes ftw! is there any item that boosts structure block or multiplies spike gain?
haste adds +1 block to each item that has block
The coral and the spiked scale are much better than the helmet and the roses, and they are both compatible with the shield.
The coral doubles the spikes of the shield each time it is used. The scale esclusively adds +1 spike each time the shield is used.
A tiny bug. Had the event of trading an item for a different one of the same rarity. It ended up giving me the same exact item back
So im here because of the spiffing brit.
the armor really needs upcapping.
turn 2 having over 1000 and its wont count it.
Haste on the mini shield, rage on the wand.
In the end, i couldnt strip the poision off fast enough
Pretty impressive how it still manages to progress even past magma core+ without a single forge on the way. The only source of haste is an armour, no rage generation, no damage scaling except the initial boost with the ring and at least damage doesn't decay because I've finally found rare shield around floor 14 (using legendary before :D). Queen cleaver appeared approx. the same floor as the shield:)
P.S. Wouldn't be possible without whetstones, saved my run pretty much.
Will we eventually summon creatures?
I died from spikes. I got to floor 15. This was a shield run. It would have been better if I got the hercule pavise.
"Accept what you get, organize." - Matthew
here lies king...beaten to death by a teddy bear...
rest in pieces...
i was feeling too lazy for a pic, much less endless
I am very happy, my first infinate run went well. I'm happy.
survivability?
get a wand (the silver one if possible) and maybe if you got the bunch of knifes relicit would still work wonders
when your build is that lame that works (poison is very harcordly good)
i know right. i love me some poison ivy...helped me up to floor 21 a few time
"Activate Windows" is the most OP part of your build. =D
You know you can delete that in the Registry, right?
Just passed floor 150, no signs of stopping.
I do have some bug reports, though.
First, the Assassin Dagger's kill counter starts behaving oddly once you get it high enough. Past 1000 kills, it starts counting by 10s (the damage bonus still only goes up by 1, though). For example, at 1121 kills it will say you have 2210 kills and a damage bonus of 1121.
Second, there seems to be a bug with Hercule Pavise activating multiple shields at a time. Some of the activations will be double-counted for negative effects (enemies gaining rage on shield use, damage penalty from Shield Spirit) but positive effects (attacks triggered by Shield Spirit, gaining block, etc.) only happen once per shield. In the setup shown above I get 10 shield activations, but 17 triggers of negative effects.
Third, although on-damage effects were fixed to only trigger upon taking damage, the fix only applies to the player - enemies with on-damage effects still trigger the effects if they take no damage from an attack. In particular, the Elder Mage's +1 dodge when taking damage still triggers when avoiding damage by dodging, meaning that only the first attack of each turn can do damage (and what's worse, if you have a weapon with a small amount of vampirism attached to it, the vampirism will trigger the dodge effect, preventing the weapon from ever dealing its normal damage).
1.- That's funny but ya, that's something that should be fixed.
2.- I don't think that's a bug, enemies who get rage per shield activation will, well, do exactly that (take is as a downside of spamming shields), now, it makes sense that every shield only get to use positive effects once per turn, otherwise you could get a ridiculous amount of haste, given you have 1 haste per shield, or in the case of cleavers (rage), they would be WAY stronger than they already are.
3.- It makes sense that you can only kill the Elder Mage in one turn if it's a literal one shot because it is a very fragile boss, and it's supposed to be a boss, not an enemy with slightly more HP. But i agree on the fact that vampirism shouldn't trigger the dodge effect with that boss, i have never been in that situation but hitting the boss for the 1, 2, 3 vampirism damage for it to dodge your BIG damage sounds horrible.
I hope you keep enjoying the game! ^^
2 and 3 are both definitely problems, and for the same reason; it's important that when the same language is used for different effects they work the same way. The two effects on the Shield Spirit both use the same language to describe when they activate, therefore they need to both activate under the same conditions. If the player had an item with the same text as the Elder Mage's ability, it would cause them to dodge every second damage source in a turn, not all but the first; therefore the Elder Mage's ability should work that way too. Consistent use of language in effect descriptions is vital to a game like this.
The issue with vampirism counting as a separate damage source isn't technically a bug, it just causes problematic interactions due to ordering (and changing the order in which the damage sources trigger doesn't solve it, it just changes which specific situations have problematic interactions). If it were me, I would change vampirism X from "deals X damage and heals for unblocked damage dealt" to "this item heals for unblocked damage dealt up to a maximum of X" and give most or all of the items with vampirism X an additional +X damage bonus (that would keep the total damage and potential healing the same, but unifies the damage into a single damage source - technically a small buff, but much more consistent in its behavior).
This archer's wand build is incredibly fun and powerful! Next to zero lag considering it's primarily mana, and I only failed because I ran out of mana. 350+ damage per energy and it worked as early as floor 4, doing like 120+ damage per energy cause of that sexy bomb relic
i should go endless with this build and just make it broken, but i'm just lazy XD
I can see the future, and it's this shield in general.
that is amazing..
The ultimate achievement is getting pickaxe and filling up your whole bag with gems, dealing 1000 damage in one turn!!
Can't think of a better pickaxe setup other than some gem improvements. Can't wait to start endless with this setup!
I died because of a curse and the game broke. I was not able to take damage, I could still scratch tho. When I reorganized, I just died.
what i do i am "broken" i am unlucky with the stop watch
How is feather cap a legendary? For anyone who doesn't know what it does, +2 block each turn per space underneath.
The elder mage is so unfun,please remove him or make him attack you atleast .. NoT ranged attack tho that would be the nail in the coffin!
emerald bracelet dosent stack sometimes
Only one of them are adjacent.
Adjacent, not diagonal
estava usando a builde de espinhos junto com a lança vanpirismo como a imagen mostra , estava usando a comida que da 5+hp que buffa a agua que adiciona 4+ energia assim fazendo o combo 4+Stamina = 20+HP tendo no meu slote uns 3 ou 4 para poder enfrentar os bosses e tb tendo a poção de remover debuf assim o efeito do vanpirismo sendo cancelado ja que nao iria matar o inimigo, bom Jogo espero poder comprar assim que lançar
It would be cool if there was a way to counteract Poison without taking damage at the start of the next turn. Maybe a potion or item that immediately dispels Poison once it's applied, sort of like Dodge but for poison.
It has, the cleaning hag helps with low quantities and the self-status potion eliminates it completely.
You still take damage by poison right before your turn starts and you can drink the self-status potion. It's unavoidable and a big crutch on endless runs where a single poison tick can take away all your health without you having the chance to remove it.
Misclicked on the king and toasted myself on spikes. good run though it was a pretty harsh stalemate. I couldn't do enough damage to pass up his regen.
I was playing a wand build and my computer would lag when i used a rod. It would be nice if I could turn off particles.
Never attacking the Frogs again, spent 5 min widdling his hp down. Had 5k spikes at the end.
damn, and i was felling great for reaching floor 30 xD awesome build!
I missplayed but it was a good run, I only went up to floor 20, and most importantly I built a castle with the pickaxe
Floor 69, and still going strong.
On floor 71 I finally got a second rage forge on the dagger. My scaling rate is still linear, but is much steeper now.
how this work? looks like it has nothing really strong other than block, but how do you manage curses and stuff
I am guessing he tanks curses and heals with food or throws away some food, Assassin's Dagger has infinite scaling and he can get defense while damaging his opponents, probably has rage, haste or both. I don't think enemies survive long enough to poison him.
NICE
Duct tapes are quite op, from spreading buffs to adding more arrows.
why do you think it got nerfed as much as it did? it is just as godlike as it is in real life, somehow fixing and improving almost everything
if slime sword exist would be too much to ask for, slime daggers or another slime items? XD to make more use of the bomb relic
More slime items will be coming in the downloadable version soon
another thing, should teddy bear sword and pacifist ring really synergize? in think teddy should be a weapon, but because he isnt whe can have a +1 energy with + 2 extra atk, having both itens
Yes, "Teddy Bear Sword" is not in the "Weapon" category
If anyone can beat this build and get past floor 26 let me know
i went until floor 27, with a shield build, but i could have gone futher i was just lazy because the battles lasted so long