This was insane, went through the whole game with 16 hp, but wand does 46 to all enemies with 2 mana, and if I can't kill something with all my mana, I can do 51 damage with the axe for 1 gold, as many times as I can afford. Nice game!
QA gang in the thread. Not sure if it's intended (or if you have it tracked), but 0.5 poison ticks down to -0.5 and further to the negative values. Would've provided proofscreens, but itch doesn't allow me to for some reason :(
So does the game not actually save because I was in the deep caves and refreshed my browser by accident and completely lost all progress. I'm not worried about it though; it is a demo and I Look forward to when the game officially releases on steam
Edit: Everytime I refresh the page it doesn't save
wanted damage staff but not needed. healing staff for healing, queen cleaver that uses other cleavers, warrior's spellbook for more damage and mana, ninja costume for a dodge every turn for the cost of no block allowed, windmill for extra energy, conductor and gems for more damage. staff on the left is useless because of cleavers and feather cap also useless cuz of ninja costume. overall is a fun build
played a bit of unlimited and it became even stronger. another ninja costume for another dodge so you can survive infinitely as long as the enemies doesn't attack more than 2 times in total per turn and rogue helmet for extra insurance.
ninja costume gives 1 block per turn and rogue helmet give a dodge per combat (its kinda like a consumable but it will refresh every combat). the strategy is to kill any extra attacks that your dodge can't prevent then your good to go, as long as you don't get one shot by an enemy you can get back to full health in 1 or 2 turns. the only bad opponents are spike, but as long as you have enough dodge you will never die so you can take your time.
Running magic builds is such a pain because you have to click ever single charge, it'd be nice if there was a use all connected charges option. It'd also be nice if there was some indication of which items are forming a curcuit.
Maybe these things exist and I'm just unobservant, but if they don't they'd be a nice include.
i have math and impatient issue jks aside it's a really awesome game the backpack mechanic makes items not too broken and makes for some interesting decision-making
I recently had an idea for countering the burn effect. It would be interesting to have an "alum" item that makes every adjacent & diagonal piece of armor remove burn rather than simply block it (alum is used to make flameproof cloth in real life).
This was a super weak and silly run. I have no idea how I managed to get that far.. even had to fight King.. who could do nothing but watch as I scaled infinitely out of reach. lol
I did see a couple black smiths so spear had 2 rage and shield had haste. Just took my time and had a bit of fun with it.
Ended up dying to the Bee Queen though as her workers just ignored my armor and murdered me via curse and poisons. Never really found a good weapon.. just clubs and spears and arrows but no bows.
So sad that all my progress was gone. So the game rely on cookies or something like that to save, then apparently my saved files was glitched. Now once I click "continue game" into the game, the game seems to be glitched and I cannot play anymore but startover......
WebGL doesn't allow the dev to write a file to your PC to save, it only allows the writing of a cookie. And cookies suck and are super unreliable for saving.
I just lost a game because webGL allowed my right click to create a hidden context menu in the browser that I then clicked on, forcing the page to go back, and it didn't have a save from the run.
I can't wait until the standalone build is available, either here on itch or on steam. (I already kickstarted)
Love the game so far even if I havent been able to save at all. Will definitely pick this up on Steam when it is eventually ready for launch. Had an incredible time on my third run after ignoring mana and wands the first two runs. Run finally ended on the lava floor in endless mode against those salamander men.
Didn't get a single permanent energy relic or gem, or the assassin hood :(
Finally ran out of consumables as well. The queen's cleaver in the centre spot has +4 rage generation per use from smithing upgrades. Initial damage is 634, each attack adds 456 additional damage.
This is definitely my messiest build since I accidentally stumbled upon a loophole with the Hourglass Relic when trying to do a magic run. Despite the +200% Bonus Damage, the main problem with the Hourglass is that my weapons will become useless over time due to losing -1 Damage permanently every time I used it.
That is until I found out that the Eternal Shiv from Eternal Staff and Eternal Blade from the Blade Summoner doesn't permanently receive the -1 Damage after the battle ended.
Also even though the Eternal Blade uses 2 energy per attack, I've gotten Shield Spirit Relic as one of my second drops and found out that if I use a shield with the Eternal Blade next to it, it would use that weapon for just 1 energy. And since the Windmill increases my energy from 3 to 4, that means I can technically use Eternal Blade 4 times in a single round. Which is how I immediately blitz through the King before he gets to summon anyone.
Another Relic that I got from the King that help me get through a few floors in Endless Mode is Sandwich combined with Old Log and Seasoning, which let me heal up 15+ HP with every Herb, and even more with any other consumables. Shame that it didn't last me long enough since I don't have anything to continuously prevent Poison Damage and it ended my run when it went over my Max HP.
King fight is poorly designed. There's no counter play for mass attack builds against infinitely stacking thorns, save taking the candle which otherwise is pretty useless. Lame way to end an otherwise face-roll run by hitting that kind of a wall.
Yeah, but you're still dealing with the fact that each swing is stacking thorns indefinitely. That also assumes you have enough mitigation in the build to deal with his amplifying basic swings that he's throwing out most turns.
And to edit my initial gripe I found cleansing potion worked well in the absence of candle. It still feels lame to need to assume you're going to fight a mechanic present on only two enemies in the whole game, and lame for builds that are scraping by up to the point because it's a massive, arbitrary difficulty spike that requires a very, very specific solution. It feels like lazy difficulty tuning, and little would be lost if the spikes fell off every turn.
Absolutely agree! My strongest runs have ended due to me basically killing myself from hitting him too much then not having enough armor to counter the 35 damage swings he’ll build up to. He forces people to play a specific way every fight and makes a lot of builds useless, hopefully they balance him out
Got to the toad wizard boss in the enchanted forest thinking my armor build was unbeatable and then got stomped by poison, that sure was an eye opening experience lol! This is an amazing game, I backed on kickstarter seconds after finishing playing!
Fun! And Challenging!...Start of with a small inventory then grows as you progress, but mindful on what you carry in your inventory...think think think
This was definitely my best run yet. Got to magma cave in endless. endless. I was able to generate up to 200 poison and weak on an enemy and got out of all fights with max health but these dudes are just too strong. There's no way to generate enough block to block the burn damage, weak doesn't affect it and there are 3 of them generating 20 to 40 burn each turn. I suggest adjusting the difficulty for endless if that isn't planned already cuz even the fights before took forever even though I basically couldn't lose. It got kinda jarring. Other than that it was really fun!
1. Ninja Costume didn't dodge/activate on blademaster boss at all, meaning I died lol. Is this intended? Bc it kills 0 armour full dodge/rage builds (I was an archer).
This game is so fun! However, before you add more items or zones, it would be great to see a revamp to the save system. I know you have plans for a Steam version, but it is really hard to play test the demo when the save files "fill up" with no way to clear the save to continue playing. Other than that, this is an amazing game and I am so glad I supported the kickstarter so i can see where it goes!
This is the farthest I've seen anyone make it. I have a "perfect" cleaver build. Somehow found 3 chefs hats and was able to beat the end boss a second time.
1 use the wand to add 2-3 energy for the subsequent turns
2 start building weekness using the dark wetstone
3 use the broken ring if additional shield is needed
4 mirror shield with +2 haste lets me build up armor super quickly. also stacks spikes due to relic
5 because of shield spirit relic, it also activates all of the cleavers.
6 stack rage since the gold cleaver has +2 rage on it and due to belt of knives, the middle king cleaver gets over 200 damage by the last use.
Floor 12 Boss Queen Bee's poisen & summoning two Lil Bee's with Curse every two Round killed this beautiful build :(
Maybee Poisen & Curse need some kind of a re-balance? There is no way to counter this, if you did not find any "anti-poisen" like i did.
How about this Idea? The Value of Poisen gets half after each round and curse will deal some percentage Damage instead of increase with every taken curse-dmg.? Just an Idea.
But never the less, thank you very much for this nice game :) Really like it.
Ring of Rage is kind of dumb for a rare without a downside. Got greedy and thought that 1 meal would be enough to 1 cycle the boss and kept my gold over a consumable hoping to find an energy relic or Short Arrows in a shop later. I wish buffing items would use all the mana they're connected to if you right clicked them or something because clicking 30 times before every attack is a little much. Belt of Knives working way better with archery builds than shiv builds is a bit ridiculous too.
On an unrelated note the damaging potions should probably scale with the new game+. 12 damage to a group is completely irrelevant at that point even if it's free.
Played a lot of the game the past couple of days and have really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work.
If an enemy has the spikes buff, and you attack with a weapon that causes both regular damage plus vampirism, the spike buff will damage you twice. This may be intentional. It pretty well clobbered me.
This run is so fun, using ethereal staff to make magic dagger beside poison stone, spam damage wand (forge skunk gave it 1 rage every use) then using dark whetstone to set weak on magic dagger, coal to reset dagger, the staff and whetstone, made another dagger next to poison stone, dark whetstone again for double weak on enemies by the time they've been weakened, thorns and the poison will have stacked up and they'll kill themselves if I just block.
But the rage just makes it so much faster, at this Floor 14 it takes only 1 turn to kill an enemy with say 200~ hp and because of dark headband, I get 4 mana back to use the rage staff more, and it just keeps stacking dmg, along with the 2 hp I heal every hit it seems nearly invincible.
I might quit this run and restart just because it so much clicking to keep going with this setup.
Just getting into this game but damn it is really fun, want to get a good archer build because I've seen some good comments of them here.
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This was insane, went through the whole game with 16 hp, but wand does 46 to all enemies with 2 mana, and if I can't kill something with all my mana, I can do 51 damage with the axe for 1 gold, as many times as I can afford. Nice game!
QA gang in the thread. Not sure if it's intended (or if you have it tracked), but 0.5 poison ticks down to -0.5 and further to the negative values. Would've provided proofscreens, but itch doesn't allow me to for some reason :(
GJ otherwise, good luck launching!
So does the game not actually save because I was in the deep caves and refreshed my browser by accident and completely lost all progress. I'm not worried about it though; it is a demo and I Look forward to when the game officially releases on steam
Edit: Everytime I refresh the page it doesn't save
try manually saving, and usually if i refreshed the page i just click continue instead of start so i get back my run
uhh, is this supposed to mean it halved the modifier or base plus modifier?
On the Emerald +2 (in your case)
On your weapon +1 cause 50% of all Modifiers
You understand now?
halved
wanted damage staff but not needed. healing staff for healing, queen cleaver that uses other cleavers, warrior's spellbook for more damage and mana, ninja costume for a dodge every turn for the cost of no block allowed, windmill for extra energy, conductor and gems for more damage. staff on the left is useless because of cleavers and feather cap also useless cuz of ninja costume. overall is a fun build
played a bit of unlimited and it became even stronger. another ninja costume for another dodge so you can survive infinitely as long as the enemies doesn't attack more than 2 times in total per turn and rogue helmet for extra insurance.
What if there are more than one Enemy?
+1 Block:
One Block per Enemy?
or
One Block per Turn?
ninja costume gives 1 block per turn and rogue helmet give a dodge per combat (its kinda like a consumable but it will refresh every combat). the strategy is to kill any extra attacks that your dodge can't prevent then your good to go, as long as you don't get one shot by an enemy you can get back to full health in 1 or 2 turns. the only bad opponents are spike, but as long as you have enough dodge you will never die so you can take your time.
i stopped the run because all enemies have over a thousand health and it was taking forever to kill.
Thx but i found it Out fir myselfi Just tryed it Yesterday
Thx but i found it out myself Just tryed it Yesterday
Running magic builds is such a pain because you have to click ever single charge, it'd be nice if there was a use all connected charges option. It'd also be nice if there was some indication of which items are forming a curcuit.
Maybe these things exist and I'm just unobservant, but if they don't they'd be a nice include.
i have math and impatient issue
jks aside it's a really awesome game
the backpack mechanic makes items not too broken and makes for some interesting decision-making
Ive loved the game. Is really engaging. Love the art, and love the mechanics. Is really fun and adictive.
very addictive game. this is the best run I had so far, got killed because the monsters hp is to high for my damage.
Game is great, inability to save (without notifying you it failed) was sad for my megashiv run
I love the mechanics and the graphic style of this game! :D
So, weird interaction I noticed between Ninja outfit and Haste, something tells me that getting 500 defense is not intended behavior
Realized after the fact, the texts looks fine, removes 500% of armor, weird wording, but not incorrect, here it is actually in action
And another example for good measure
This time, they're from the same fight, right before and after end of turn, you can even see the skink taking it's poison damage
I recently had an idea for countering the burn effect. It would be interesting to have an "alum" item that makes every adjacent & diagonal piece of armor remove burn rather than simply block it (alum is used to make flameproof cloth in real life).
This was a super weak and silly run. I have no idea how I managed to get that far.. even had to fight King.. who could do nothing but watch as I scaled infinitely out of reach. lol
I did see a couple black smiths so spear had 2 rage and shield had haste. Just took my time and had a bit of fun with it.
Ended up dying to the Bee Queen though as her workers just ignored my armor and murdered me via curse and poisons. Never really found a good weapon.. just clubs and spears and arrows but no bows.
So sad that all my progress was gone.
So the game rely on cookies or something like that to save, then apparently my saved files was glitched.
Now once I click "continue game" into the game, the game seems to be glitched and I cannot play anymore but startover......
WebGL doesn't allow the dev to write a file to your PC to save, it only allows the writing of a cookie. And cookies suck and are super unreliable for saving.
I just lost a game because webGL allowed my right click to create a hidden context menu in the browser that I then clicked on, forcing the page to go back, and it didn't have a save from the run.
I can't wait until the standalone build is available, either here on itch or on steam. (I already kickstarted)
Holy! Nice run
Love the game so far even if I havent been able to save at all. Will definitely pick this up on Steam when it is eventually ready for launch. Had an incredible time on my third run after ignoring mana and wands the first two runs. Run finally ended on the lava floor in endless mode against those salamander men.
Didn't get a single permanent energy relic or gem, or the assassin hood :(
Finally ran out of consumables as well. The queen's cleaver in the centre spot has +4 rage generation per use from smithing upgrades. Initial damage is 634, each attack adds 456 additional damage.
Pickaxe is op and Bombstone is the worse relic that I saw
Candle is the second worse relic
Beat the King with this
This was my build. Ring of Doom+Stopwatch combo is insane.
Maybe could've gone further with a better weapon, but never dropped anything better. Also paladin sword seems bugged - forever anchored.
This Image hurts my finger
Longbow, 3x arrows, stopwatch, glass bottle, Token of Energy, Mouse Wood, Barbell
Once enemies health got too high, my build wasn't able to keep up
That is until I found out that the Eternal Shiv from Eternal Staff and Eternal Blade from the Blade Summoner doesn't permanently receive the -1 Damage after the battle ended.
Also even though the Eternal Blade uses 2 energy per attack, I've gotten Shield Spirit Relic as one of my second drops and found out that if I use a shield with the Eternal Blade next to it, it would use that weapon for just 1 energy. And since the Windmill increases my energy from 3 to 4, that means I can technically use Eternal Blade 4 times in a single round. Which is how I immediately blitz through the King before he gets to summon anyone.
Another Relic that I got from the King that help me get through a few floors in Endless Mode is Sandwich combined with Old Log and Seasoning, which let me heal up 15+ HP with every Herb, and even more with any other consumables. Shame that it didn't last me long enough since I don't have anything to continuously prevent Poison Damage and it ended my run when it went over my Max HP.
King fight is poorly designed. There's no counter play for mass attack builds against infinitely stacking thorns, save taking the candle which otherwise is pretty useless. Lame way to end an otherwise face-roll run by hitting that kind of a wall.
if you're using cleavers you can just use one at a time, it's a bit of a pain but it's not an absolute brick wall
Yeah, but you're still dealing with the fact that each swing is stacking thorns indefinitely. That also assumes you have enough mitigation in the build to deal with his amplifying basic swings that he's throwing out most turns.
And to edit my initial gripe I found cleansing potion worked well in the absence of candle. It still feels lame to need to assume you're going to fight a mechanic present on only two enemies in the whole game, and lame for builds that are scraping by up to the point because it's a massive, arbitrary difficulty spike that requires a very, very specific solution. It feels like lazy difficulty tuning, and little would be lost if the spikes fell off every turn.
Absolutely agree! My strongest runs have ended due to me basically killing myself from hitting him too much then not having enough armor to counter the 35 damage swings he’ll build up to. He forces people to play a specific way every fight and makes a lot of builds useless, hopefully they balance him out
Got to the toad wizard boss in the enchanted forest thinking my armor build was unbeatable and then got stomped by poison, that sure was an eye opening experience lol! This is an amazing game, I backed on kickstarter seconds after finishing playing!
Haha I stomped everything with this:
Woah! You made Guncho. That's an awesome game!
👍
Fun! And Challenging!...Start of with a small inventory then grows as you progress, but mindful on what you carry in your inventory...think think think
This was definitely my best run yet. Got to magma cave in endless. endless. I was able to generate up to 200 poison and weak on an enemy and got out of all fights with max health but these dudes are just too strong. There's no way to generate enough block to block the burn damage, weak doesn't affect it and there are 3 of them generating 20 to 40 burn each turn.
I suggest adjusting the difficulty for endless if that isn't planned already cuz even the fights before took forever even though I basically couldn't lose. It got kinda jarring. Other than that it was really fun!
1. Ninja Costume didn't dodge/activate on blademaster boss at all, meaning I died lol. Is this intended? Bc it kills 0 armour full dodge/rage builds (I was an archer).
2. Sometimes saves continuously fail at random.
what are the items on the left side?
what are the items on the left side?
This game is so fun! However, before you add more items or zones, it would be great to see a revamp to the save system. I know you have plans for a Steam version, but it is really hard to play test the demo when the save files "fill up" with no way to clear the save to continue playing. Other than that, this is an amazing game and I am so glad I supported the kickstarter so i can see where it goes!
This is the farthest I've seen anyone make it. I have a "perfect" cleaver build. Somehow found 3 chefs hats and was able to beat the end boss a second time.
1 use the wand to add 2-3 energy for the subsequent turns
2 start building weekness using the dark wetstone
3 use the broken ring if additional shield is needed
4 mirror shield with +2 haste lets me build up armor super quickly. also stacks spikes due to relic
5 because of shield spirit relic, it also activates all of the cleavers.
6 stack rage since the gold cleaver has +2 rage on it and due to belt of knives, the middle king cleaver gets over 200 damage by the last use.
Floor 12 Boss Queen Bee's poisen & summoning two Lil Bee's with Curse every two Round killed this beautiful build :(
Maybee Poisen & Curse need some kind of a re-balance? There is no way to counter this, if you did not find any "anti-poisen" like i did.
How about this Idea? The Value of Poisen gets half after each round and curse will deal some percentage Damage instead of increase with every taken curse-dmg.? Just an Idea.
But never the less, thank you very much for this nice game :) Really like it.
You could either out damage the bees or get cleansing items to beat posion easily.
I know, but i did not find any cleansing in this run and to out damage the bees i died to fast :)
On an unrelated note the damaging potions should probably scale with the new game+. 12 damage to a group is completely irrelevant at that point even if it's free.
Played a lot of the game the past couple of days and have really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work.
If an enemy has the spikes buff, and you attack with a weapon that causes both regular damage plus vampirism, the spike buff will damage you twice. This may be intentional. It pretty well clobbered me.
Nifty game!
This run is so fun, using ethereal staff to make magic dagger beside poison stone, spam damage wand (forge skunk gave it 1 rage every use) then using dark whetstone to set weak on magic dagger, coal to reset dagger, the staff and whetstone, made another dagger next to poison stone, dark whetstone again for double weak on enemies by the time they've been weakened, thorns and the poison will have stacked up and they'll kill themselves if I just block.
But the rage just makes it so much faster, at this Floor 14 it takes only 1 turn to kill an enemy with say 200~ hp and because of dark headband, I get 4 mana back to use the rage staff more, and it just keeps stacking dmg, along with the 2 hp I heal every hit it seems nearly invincible.
I might quit this run and restart just because it so much clicking to keep going with this setup.
Just getting into this game but damn it is really fun, want to get a good archer build because I've seen some good comments of them here.